Tower Survivors

Maybe I am doing it wrong but the game eventually gets very lag as the number of monsters grow and becomes unplayable.  

That being said, the art is nice and the gameplay is great. 

The pets are interesting. I'm deeply looking forward to pet specific upgrades. Will they work via level up cards? Can we feed them coins? 

If you ever do a pure survivors' mode where you're just meant to hold off and not bother with any portal, I think the animals will be one of the biggest assets.

This is my favorite update, I think, if only for the possibilities. This is going to be huge.

The cat has an advantage of making early survival much easier. It was always a little challenging getting started.

Have you given thought to a banish option that lets you make certain level up options not show up anymore?

Thanks again for the update. I liked it. And the barrels.

For the sprinting enemies, could they get a tell that shows the player when they're about to dash and when they're dashing? They could have a glowing aura of some kind or vibrate as they're running.

Perhaps some of the dashers could get variations of it?

One of them could do a flying leap that sends him soaring up and landing in the spot he's aiming for.

Another gets increased running speed, like what they have now.

And one more variation is that the guy could pause as he builds up power, and then he fires off like a bullet in a straight line.

It would add variety to these kinds of foes, especially with respect to how they behave when shot while dashing. The flying leap enemies could drop to the ground if shot in a jump. 

The sprinters get knocked back, as they already do. 

Maybe the bullet guys lose a step from their charge with each arrow.



I checked, and it seems that while enemies don't spawn outside the map as often, they still can sometimes.

By the way, what do the torches do? Are they meant to add light? Make it easier to see? I thought they were a collectable. It would be pretty cool if they were. You can pick one up and move it, and maybe it improves the towers in some way. 

It gives an advantage to exploration. Do these spawn coins periodically or something? 

One bug I noticed is that the tower upgrades are mislabeled. They say they offer one element, but they give the guys the other one.

Thank you for the update.

Great update. 

I like the defenders having health and not always going down in one hit. The addition of the building aspect of this game is quite surprising.

You've created a means for someone to create a kill box and funnel the enemies in.

Is that what the walls are for? You have them cost 3 coins, and they block arrows. Someone can't sit behind them and shoot. If you could shoot over the walls, I'd use these. They're in a very early state, though. Perhaps new variants will exist in the future.

I applaud how you did something new.

They're cool to have, but 3 elemental defenders gives you more bang for your buck. The elves are meat shields, just the same as the walls are.

The defenders being able to use elemental effects makes them so much better.

My favorite thing is the increased detection range. These guys used to be useless because they took too long to aim and fire, and by the time an enemy walked up, they'd already be dead. 

They're still best used in large groups, but the fact that they can see a foe from farther away now means you get more use out of them.

What are the differences between the types of towers, by the way? Is it listed anywhere?

Also, is it a bug that enemies can spawn outside of the map? If you go to the corners, imps will spawn and try to force their way through the barrier there rather than appear in an open space.

Would you mind tweaking the coin and health level up behavior to not show up if you're at max health or have a certain number of coins?

Getting 3 options per level up means it reduces your chances of finding something you want.

I'd like the health more if it gave you extra maximum health when you're already at full, or it trickles over. Does it do that already? I only bought some when I was at 4 HP.

To get the most out of your elemental arrows now, you'll want to focus on turning all the arrows you have into elemental ones first, and then go for the upgrades. 

I actually like this system more. You have guaranteed effects vs a % chance.

For the elements, anyways. Is the maximum you can get for multishot +2 arrows now? I'm thinking, unless you add a piercing power up that makes arrows continue to go through enemies, you'd be better off skipping multi shot for an elemental arrow.

Because they apparently do not stock. You can't multishot acid arrows for example.

Two arrows simply kill potentially two enemies, but are more likely to have one or both of them miss. 

A pool of acid, ice, or a fire effect keeps providing benefits. If you filled up your quiver with acid arrows, you could count on frequent pools of acid to help clear out enemies. 

I suppose the multishot would balance out if they fused together at some point, and you could shoot more than +3 arrows.

But the coins and health options reduce your chances of finding more elements, especially since buying an element means you now can buy elemental power ups for that element.

Actually, how about letting us spend coins for a reroll? It gives them another use. Or you could create reroll tokens and put them on enemies. 

So this update is much harder, mainly because bad RNG could easily screw you.

My first 5 level ups had health and coins. I'd have gotten farther if I got the strong options from the start. 

Your damage is way slower, and the enemy's escalating means you spend a lot more time shooting them. They end up outpacing you unless you can put together a good build. 

So I suppose your list of priorities are to pick an arrow power up. Exclusively purchase that one. Skip level ups unless they raise your damage or let you buy the power up you want, and then you hunt until you're able to get setup.

The damage over time effect of ice makes it interesting. That's a nice change.

This system of each arrow having an element to it could lead to future special arrow types, though. That would add a whole new level of complexity. 

Like if you purchased a fire arrow and then bought acid on that slot. What if it created a stronger, corrosive fire?

Or buying acid and then fire means the acid pools will set people on fire and also melt them.

entertained me for hours. finally managed to get the portal up but i couldn't fight off all the demons. got it up again, same story. then i got too cocky and kept trying to level up to become even more powerful. then uh. this happened?

they couldn't hurt me and i couldn't hurt them so i tried to place some towers around to thin them out so i might be able to push my way through.
which. uh. well, they were coming at a faster rate than i could kill them. so i decided to risk it and…
oh well :(

that was super fun! tha map spawned the most perfect barricade of trees and rocks and I just chilled inside but i got too greedy and went out of my fort to collect some coins got murdered. <_<

Great game, only critisizem is that it gets stale fast. Add more variations of enemys with new ai, attacks, etc, add some stage hazards, more upgrades that do things other than change your arrows a little, etc. Make a discord so i can dump all my ideas on the devs and know when the game gets updated. Great job so far!! Keep up the good work :))

awesome game! tho i have yet to beat it, i wish there was a way to heal. i understand the desire for difficulty but maybe you could have different difficulty settings? or make one of the upgrades a heal thingy. looking forward to updates either way !!

I like the update. Have you considered traps as a mechanic? Reusable, resettable traps you can plop down? Could be a nice alternative to the player spending their gold on a tower.

Pit traps, bombs, glue traps. Maybe walking over one would reset it? It's a more active mechanic than the set and forget of a tower, but the traps would be consistent if you can have the enemies step into one.

The other thing about the tower system is that you could assign a feature to them that disables enemy spawns near them.

The main difficulty in this game is of learning where you need to stand. If you stand in the same place, the enemies will spawn in a predictable manner. If you move around a lot, enemies can spawn directly on top of your towers, or right in front of them inside your lines.

They're programmed to appear outside of your line of sight, so you can get weirdness if you run out to collect points and then walk back to find they appeared and wrecked all of your guys.

Could it be a thing that they all appear from the edge of the map and then gradually move towards your position? Then the defense aspect would always be consistent.

You could mix in some flying enemies who can soar over obstacles to keep up a steady amount of pressure on the player.

And add a climbing feature to some enemies. I think it's really cool how they can get stuck on things, but you wouldn't have to worry about pathfinding as much if they could group up and then climb over each other's heads to get over something.

As far as the power ups go, I think they're balanced. I personally like the one that lowers your spread. Being able to effectively snipe enemies and make a wide stream of arrows hit where you want them to be a highly useful tool.

And it apparently upgrades your speed, too? I assume this is the speed that the arrow travels? It doesn't seem to increase firing speed like the shoot power up does.

The only one that feels like an oddball to me is ice, because the others all have an effect that kills. Fire creates massive explosions. Acid was so powerful you had to make it work a limited number of times. 

And then we've got ice. Perhaps it could apply a frost bite effect that makes enemies unable to attack until they warm up? That's something an ice specialist would love to have. It means they have more chances to protect the portal. The guys can't hurt it if they're still chilled and are blue.

Thanks again for the update. This is my most anticipated game, and I'm always happy to play it.

Found a bug, if you start the defend the portal event, and then activate an obelisk again by walking into it, the red screen goes away and no more monsters spawn in, not sure what time the game ends because haven't beaten it(did reach 7 minutes), but waited a good bit and it didn't end

The music sounds like something out of breath of fire or some other old rpg. I love it!

Really nice  game!
You did a lot of things really well and the game has a nice cohesive theme and gameplay loop.

I'm sure there are lot a of great things that you have planned for this game but haven't gotten around to yet. 

Here are some of the things that felt a bit off for me:
-The precision upgrade mostly just felt like a negative, once you have a lot of arrows nothing is getting through anyways. 

- The damage boost rendered most of the elemental upgrades somewhat useless. Not sure about the best way to fix this, I think maybe adding a negative like damage + 1 but firing speed is reduced.

- Speaking of Elemental upgrades they are very different in terms of value:

-- The Acid is S tier, it honestly just makes the game way too easy once the player has upgraded it alongside firing speed and additional arrows. I would consider adding a timer that limits how often the pools can proc on enemies.

-- The Fire is OK, balance wise its pretty strong (A Tier). I personally didn't like using it mostly due for clarity reasons. It can be difficult to tell if an ignited enemy isn't dead or just died, this lead to some frustration. 

-- The Ice Upgrade is a straight up downgrade (Garbage Tier). It offers no damage and even worse is blocks your own arrows which lowers your overall dps. I would swap the collision box for a larger slow zone (trigger) that reduces the enemies movement speed by ~50% while they are in the zone.

- I think the end-game would be better if the fight lasted for longer but the portal had a healthbar so it could take a few hits instead of resetting the whole fight because a single enemy slipped through.

- And last but not least the clones are really only useful as a early detection system so you know what direction the portal is going to be attacked from next. They literally do nothing else mid-late game. They would feel much less arbitrary if they were more useful, an easy fix would be to give them roughly 20% of the players upgrades.  This would probably also mean that the difficulty would need a slight boost of course. 

So, it gets to a point where you can't win.  There are 4 "sides" to the portal, you can't see, and the waves are endless.  Most of the monsters didn't even reach the portal before the timer stopped.

Also, and this is huge.  PLEASE, please add a locator for the portal.  I can't keep track of it in the middle.  I eventually put my little (quite useless) men in a horizontal line across the board.

Otherwise, it's a pretty good game.  I played for like 20 minutes.

eventually its just fucking scorched earth with napalm arrows

This was a cute game but i wanted to see it having an ending... i hope you add one in the future! (if it already has it im gonna play this game until i get all the perks maxed.... i played it for 15-20 minutes already but okay 👀

This game is super fun. I like it because I like Vampire Survivors, Pixel Survivors, and Brotato.

You got the difficulty right. I enjoy the variety of options. This game is different from the ones I previously mentioned because you focused on upgrading the character's base capabilities rather than adding on new gimmicks.

I'm very excited to see what happens next.

One issue I found is that the sound effects can overlap and become very loud. I shot like 4 imps at once and their death sound was very loud.

This game has good music too. It reminds me of Final Fantasy.